Open Carry Knife Law in San Francisco, California (2022)

  1. 06-02-2010,02:41 PM #1

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    My question involves criminal law for the state of: California

    I'm new to the forum. Hi everyone. I have an interesting question on the topic of knife laws in San Francisco. A friend of mine in San Francisco has purchased a very nice folding knife with a blade of 5" for his knife collection and asked me if it is legal to carry out in public (non school or public buildings).

    From what I read California law (PC 653K) there is a 3-inch blade limitation on folding knives carried in the pocket, or concealed carry. There are also limitation on knives deemed as illegal (switchblade, daggers, gravity knives, etc). There are also local ordinances in San Francisco as well that states there is to be a blade length limitation of 3-inches or 2.5 inches around public schools for a concealed folding knife while there is no actual length limitation on a fixed blade carried open carry.

    My assumption is that if a fixed blade can be carried open carry, so then can a folding knife. From my observation, most people will carry a knife tucked in the pocket in plain view with the knife clip sticking out of their pocket which is no obscured by any piece of clothing. Must it be carried in a sheath or on the belt or will a pocket suffice? If a fixed blade can be carried in this manner, might so a folding knife carried in a sheath worn on the belt? Does open carry mean he must hang the knife from his pocket with the knife facing outwards with the clip on the inside of his pocket?

    I have even contacted all of the police stations in San Francisco, with each officer giving me a different answer. I have checked online for answers to this but have come up with nothing in written law which clarifies any of this. Does anyone have any information that can clarify this? I'm having a hard finding anything in person or online. Thanks guys =)

  2. 06-02-2010,04:10 PM #2

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    I used to be on the Board of this organization...
    http://akti.org/

    I've been out of the biz so have not kept up on the laws. They should be able to point you in the right direction.

  3. 06-03-2010,07:13 AM #3

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    I used to be on the Board of this organization...
    http://akti.org/

    I've been out of the biz so have not kept up on the laws. They should be able to point you in the right direction.

    Hey thanks, this site looks interesting. I'll check them out, thanks. Open Carry Knife Law in San Francisco, California (9)
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    You will find the laws here:

    http://library.municode.com/index.as...ame=California

    Section 1291 through 1293 cover the knife laws. If you are an adult, the relevant section should be 1291 which concerns loitering while in possession of a dangerous weapon:

    SEC. 1291. - PROHIBITING LOITERING WHILE CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPONS.

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    (a)
    As used in this Section, but in no wise limited thereto, "dangerous or deadly weapon" shall mean: any knife with a blade three inches or more in length; any spring-blade, switch-blade, or snap-blade or other similar type knife; any knife any blade of which is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device; any ice pick, or similar sharp, stabbing tool; any straight edge razor or any razor blade fitted to a handle; any cutting, stabbing, bludgeoning weapon or device capable of inflicting grievous bodily harm.
    (b)
    It shall be unlawful for any person, while carrying concealed upon his person any dangerous or deadly weapon, to loaf or loiter upon any public street, sidewalk, or alley, or to wander about from place to place, with no lawful business thereby to perform, or to hide, lurk, loiter upon or about the premises of another.
    (c)
    It shall be unlawful for any person who has concealed upon his person or who has in his immediate physical possession any dangerous or deadly weapon to engage in any fight or to participate in any other rough or disorderly conduct upon any public place or way or upon the premises of another.
    (d)
    It shall be unlawful for any person who has concealed upon his person any dangerous or deadly weapon to loiter about any place where intoxicating liquors are sold or any other place of public resort.
    (e)
    The foregoing restrictions shall not be deemed to prohibit the carrying of ordinary tools or equipment carried in good faith for uses of honest work, trade or business or for the purpose of legitimate recreation.

    So, do not loiter. And unless you have a concealed fixed blade knife, you should be okay.

    Why is this such an issue for you? Please do not say that you intend to utilize a knife for self defense ... Open Carry Knife Law in San Francisco, California (12)

  5. 06-07-2010,09:46 AM #5

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    Well my friend brought this up to me and it was an interesting issue that I couldn't find where an "open carry knife" was legal defined in text. What exactly is open carry, I had a hard time finding it online. My girl friend also carries a knife "for self defense purposes" (she gets off late at night in a bad neighborhood and just feels more safe with it). I just thought it was an interesting legal issue and could be used as a defensive argument if anyone on the forum was interested. I thought it was even more amusing most of the law enforcement officers I spoke with did not know the exact law when dealing with knives in San Francisco.
  6. 06-07-2010,10:04 AM #6

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    Open carry is easy ... if it NOT concealed, it is in the open.

    And, carrying a knife for "self defense" is absolutely foolish unless one is trained in the use of knives for combat. If she is not, she is more likely to harm herself or use it inappropriately than to actually protect herself for it.

  7. 06-07-2010,12:10 PM #7

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    Seriously - suggest your girl friend get some pepper spray and krav maga classes.
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  8. 06-09-2010,06:57 PM #8

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    Yes, she has taken an advanced knife to knife sparring and tactical knife defense classes so I guess he just feels more confident with a knife. Might be over board, but hey, whatever floats her boat.

    However upon further investigation it looks like most people consider open carry to mean the pocket clip showing without anything blocking it (this is how almost all manufactures expect their customers to carry their knives as well). However speaking with peace officers they believe it should be the opposite way with the knife on the outside and the clip on the inside. Obviously this is so they can see the everything. (although there are some sheaths out there that cover the whole knife in a boxy pocket looking thing or gun holsters which conceal part of the gun). Does this mean people must hang their knife or guns from a string around belt buckle so 100% of it is visible? (joke) =)

  9. 06-09-2010,07:05 PM #9

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    The way most women's clothes are made, you can't fit a good sized knife in your pocket anyway. I used to clip an Emerson to the side of my bag... but since I wasn't going to use it for close quarters defense, it didn't really matter to me that it was easily accessed by the bad guys. The knife was worth more than my purse anywayOpen Carry Knife Law in San Francisco, California (23)
  10. 06-09-2010,11:25 PM #10

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    A FOLDED knife can be concealed in the pocket ... provided the blade is not open. So, clipping it on is just fine. For other knives with fixed blades, they had best be readily visible lest an officer claim the knife in question was concealed.
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