Battery Options - Getting Started (2024)

Battery Options - Getting Started (1)

Here at Grin we've been dealing with ebike batteries for a very long time during which we've offered over 100 variants of NiCad, NiMH, LiFePO4, LiPo, and Lithium-Ion packs in all kinds of voltages, geometries, and capacities. It's been a love/hate relationship over those years, but the more recent mass production of 18650 lithium cells for high power consumer goods like power tools has shifted things to the love side, with ebike batteries that are cheaper, lighter, and with far longer life span than we could have ever wished for in the past. We're happy to stock both frame mount and rear rack mounted batteries from 98 watt-hours to 1100 watt-hours in size to suite the needs of most electric bicycle conversions.

Battery Options

Grin's 2020 battery offerings include a mix of flat rack and downtube style batteries made with Panasonic, LG, and Samsung cells to suite a wide variety of user needs. Each pack uses Anderson Powerpole connectors on the discharge lead and includes a robust BMS circuit for overcharge, over discharge, and overcurrent protection.

LiGo

36V2.7Ah

Reention2170DP4C

36V 14.5Ah
36V 19Ah
48V 14.5Ah

21700 BBG

52V 14.5Ah

Reention2170DP5C

36V 24.5Ah

Reention2170DP5C

48V 19Ah

ReentionDP9C

36V 26.5Ah
52V 20Ah

eZeeFlatpack

36V 14.5Ah
36V 22Ah
48V 15Ah

CellsLG MG1NCR21700ANCR21700ANCR21700A / Samsung 50GNCR21700A / Samsung 50GPanasonic GA /
Samsung 35E
LG MH1
Max Current10 Amps40 Amps40 Amps40 Amps40 Amps40 Amps35 Amps
Typ. Range8-12 km50-70 km30-80km60-100km55-95km80-120 km50-80 km
InstallationSeat BagDowntubeDowntubeDowntubeDowntubeDowntubeRear Rack
Weight0.6 kg3.15 kg4.05 kg4.8 kg4.9 kg5.3 kg3.9 kg
UN38.3?YesYesYesYesYesYesYes
Charge PlugAndersonST3ST3ST3ST3ST3XLR
LiGo Battery
Battery Options - Getting Started (2)
This is our smallest battery offering specifically aimed at people who have to travel or fly with their ebike. Each module is 36V 2.7Ah, so just under 100 watt-hours, exempting it from most of the heavy shipping restrictions. You can parallel connect them for as much capacity as required, and series connect them for 72V setups. Designed and made in Canada by Grin Tech, full details here. *This product is currently discontinued and soon to be replaced with our new Ligo 10X batteries.*
Downtube Batteries
Battery Options - Getting Started (3)

We have had downtube-mounted batteries made with quality cells using popular casings from Hailong and Reention. They are designed for mounting to the water bottle eyelets on your frame tubing, though you can get a much more secure and versatile frame attachment using our Double Bob or Triple Bob anchors.

We used to have the smaller Hailong-01 enclosure in 36V 16.5Ah (10s 5p) layouts suitable for 20-25A current setups, and the larger Hailong-03 enclosure in a 52V 16.5Ah (14s 5p) size for higher current and capacity, but we have nowswitched to only Reention Poly-DP casings for a standardized cradle, stronger casing, and more reliable connectors. For extra large capacity (>1 KWhr), we have the Reention DP-9C casings in 36V 26.5Ah and 52V 20Ah formats.We also have downtube enclosures for the larger 21700 cell format and have these available in 36V 14.5Ah, 36V 19.5Ah,52V 14.5Ahand 72V 9.5Ah options with Panasonics NCR21700Acells (same as used on Telsa 3), and also in a 72V 7.5Ah format using the very high power capable Samsung 40T cells.

These Downtube batteries all have a mounting cavity compatible with our Baserunner motor controller for slick and clean kit installation.

eZee Flat Batteries
Battery Options - Getting Started (4)
The eZee flat packs are one of the nicer rear rack battery options that we've dealt with, featuring a locking on/off key switch, and a rail system to slide into the eZee double-decker rack or attach with our more universal CNC battery anchors. They hold up to 70 cells, allowing for both a 36V 19Ah (10s 7p) and 48V 14Ah (13s 5p) options. The 36V pack has UN38.3 certification for air shipping, and can handle up to 40A motor controllers fine, while the 48V pack shouldn't be used above 25A.
eZee Vertical Batteries
Battery Options - Getting Started (5)
We occasionally maintain stock of replacement vertical seat tube batteries that have been in use in the eZee bicycle line since time immemorial. If you have an eZee bike circa 2008-2012 with the Phylion lithium battery pack, you'll be in for a serious upgrade with over twice the capacity in the same size and weight.

How to Choose a Pack

The very first consideration when choosing a battery pack is ensuring that it can handle the current draw of your motor controller. If you have a 40A motor controller, but your battery is only rated to deliver 25A max, then either the BMS circuit will shut off the battery at full throttle, or the battery will be stressed and have reduced cycle life. The converse, having a battery that has a higher current rating than what your controller will draw, is no problem at all. In fact, it can be quite beneficial.

The next consideration is ensuring that the battery is large enough for your required travel range; it's no fun having a battery go flat before the end of your trip. In order to determine the range that you will get from a given battery, you need to know both the watt-hour capacity of the battery, and how much energy you use per kilometer. Sounds complicated? Not really. As a rule of thumb, most people riding an ebike at average speeds consume about 10 Wh/km from their battery, and this makes the math very easy. If you have a 400 watt-hour battery, you can expect a range of 40km. A 720 watt-hour battery? ~72km

Of course, if you go really fast or are pulling an extra load, then this mileage will be worse, like 12-15 wh/km. On the other hand, if you use the motor more sparingly, then you can easily stretch it down to 6-8 wh/km. The table below summarizes the expected range for these different example batteries under light, average, and heavy usage paradigms:

Range with Light UseRange with Typical UseRange with Heavy Use
3 Parallel LiGo
(~300 Wh)
35-45 km25-35 km18-22 km
36V 14Ah Downtube
(~500 Wh)
60-80km45-55km30-35 km
eZee Flat Pack
(~700 Wh)
80-100km60-80km35-45 km
52V 16.5Ah Downtube
(~850 Wh)
100-120 km80-90 km55-65 km

It makes very little difference whether you have a small geared motor, a large direct drive motor, or a mid-drive motor. The mileage and range figures for a given battery have to do with how you use the ebike, not which motor system is on the bike.

Tip: No one EVER regrets having too much battery capacity

The Case for Extra Capacity

Say you have a 12km trip to work and back, so to do the full 24km round trip you'll need 240 watt-hours. A 36V 8Ah battery at 288 watt-hours should be a perfect choice no?

The answer is that, unless you are seriously budget or weight constrained, this would probably be a bad battery investment. It might fit the bill initially for your commuting needs, but then it doesn't really leave any reserve if you need to run some errands on the way home or forget to charge it up one night etc. Even worse, as the battery ages over time, the capacity drops. After a year your 8Ah battery is now only 7Ah, it's only barely able to do your daily commute, and the next year when it is just 6Ah you now need to carry the charger with you and top it up at work every day.

Most people find that once they have an ebike, they use it for all kinds of applications and trips outside of just commuting, and the ability to go 50+ km on a charge opens up possibilities that wouldn't have been possible otherwise. Plus, as the battery ages and declines in capacity, it still has more than enough range for your key commuting needs. Imagine if instead of getting an 8Ah pack, you purchased a 15Ah battery. Even if after 4-5 years it has lost 30% of its original capacity, that's still over 10Ah and leaves plenty of reserve for your 24km commute.

Furthermore, if you have more capacity than required, then you also have the opportunity to do partial charging of the battery with a Satiator or similar device, so that instead of charging the pack to 100% to squeeze out every km, your standard charge is set to a lower 80 or 90% level. This can have a pronounced effect increasing both the cycle life and calendar life of a lithium battery by several fold.

And a final point is that a larger battery has a lower per cell stress during discharge since the current is shared among more parallel cells. Cells that are cycled at high discharge currents (>1-2C) exhibit noticeably lower cycle life than those cycled at low currents

See Also
Support

Parallel Connecting Batteries

Battery Options - Getting Started (6)One of the easiest ways to increase the current handling capability and range is to put two or more batteries in parallel. In general, with lithium batteries of the same nominal voltage, this is no problem. It is ok to mix old and new lithium batteries in parallel, or even batteries from different manufacturers and with different capacities, so long as they are the same voltage. We stock a parallel battery joining cableto facilitate connecting packs this way.

Where things can get a bit dicey is in charging batteries that are parallel connected. If you leave the batteries in parallel while charging, then the charger current will get shared between the batteries and you can be sure that they are always at the same charge level. However, that does mean one of the batteries will be getting charged through the discharge port. For single port BMS circuits, this is not a concern, but on dual port BMS boards (separate charging and discharging mosfets) there is no overcharge protection on the pack being charged from the discharge leads. This can present a safety risk if there is a cell anomaly in that pack.

Alternately, you can separate the batteries and charge each with its own charger and then connect them in parallel just for discharging. Just make sure that both packs are indeed fully charged, as you don't want to connect them together when one pack is charged and the other is flat.

36V or 48V?

We sell roughly equal numbers of 36V and 48V battery packs, and all of our conversion kits and controllers work fine with both 36V and 48V (or 52V) battery options. Just because 48V is a larger number, it does not mean that a 48V ebike is intrinsically better / more powerful / faster than a 36V ebike despite what the ill-informed internet will lead you to believe. However, it is true that a given motor will spin faster at a higher voltage, and usually higher speeds will correspond to more power consumption. For most of the stock hub motor kits that we offer, a 36V battery will result in a commuting speed of 30-35 kph, while wth a 48V battery will result in closer to 40-45 kph.

If you are upgrading or replacing an existing battery pack, it is always safe to replace it with a battery that has the same nominal voltage. If you have a 36V ebike setup that is not from us, and are looking to 'upgrade' to a 48V/52V pack, more often than not you can do this without damaging the existing electronics. That is because most 36V motor controllers use 60V rated mosfets and 63V rated capacitors, and so even a fully charged 52V battery will not exceed these values.

Series Connecting for 72V?

Battery Options - Getting Started (7)

It is also possible in principle to series connect two 36V batteries to make a 72V setup, but the only battery we have that is intrinsically designed for this is our LiGo modules. With all other batteries, it is essential to use a pass diode across the output of each battery so that when one BMS circuit trips it does not get exposed to a large negative voltage. We have a special series battery cable with this diode built in available here.

When you series connect batteries, you want to make sure they are packs with identical capacities and specs. You also want to make sure that either your controller or Cycle Analyst low voltage cutoff is set such that the discharge stops as soon as one pack trips. Otherwise continuous current will continue to flow through the pass diode when you are running off just the one non-tripped battery, causing the diode to overheat and fail.

Battery Connectors

We like to use Anderson Powerpole connectors as the standard discharge plug on all of our ebike battery packs. These connectors are ingenious since they are genderless, allowing you to use the same plug both on both a load and a source, and the connector design allows them to withstand the arc of inrush current when plugged into capacitive loads much better than bullet style plugs. For the charging port, we like to use the female 3-pin XLR plug standard. This is directly compatible with the Satiator charger, and the quality Neutrik XLR plugs are rated for a full 15 amps per pin allowing very rapid charging. Unfortunately, this option is not available for many of the downtube battery enclosures. Originally we used the very common but low current DC 5.5 x 2.1 mm barrel plug, but have since updated to using the 3 pin connector from ST which is safer, supports higher currents (8A is no problem) and has a 3rd pin for battery temperature sensing.

Battery Options - Getting Started (8)Battery Options - Getting Started (9)

Battery Shipping

Battery Options - Getting Started (10)The shipping of lithium batteries is a complicated endeavor that frustrates the logistics of supplying and supporting ebike conversions kits. After numerous incidents of early lithium batteries either smoking or catching fire in transit, the transportation industry as whole recognized that lithium packs could not be handled casually like regular cargo and greatly stepped up the regulatory framework governing the shipping of lithium battery packs. These rules are constantly evolving, but generally ebike batteries are treated as Class 9 Dangerous Goods. In order to ship a lithium battery (whether by ground or by air) very strict packaging and labeling requirements must be followed, the battery must generally have UN38.3 test certification, and the person doing the packing and shipping has to be trained and certified in the handling and shipping of dangerous goods. When you order a battery from us, there is an automatic Dangerous Goods handling fee that is added to the order, and your battery pack is shipped separately from the rest of the kit as dangerous goods cargo. Many shipping companies do not offer dangerous goods services and we may change the courier selection to one that can deliver to your area.

Where to Order

Grin Tech Online Store

If none of our own battery offerings meet your needs, we can also highly recommend the knowledgeable folks atBatteryspace.com and EM3EV as alternate suppliers of lithium battery packs in a wide range of capacities, form factors, and voltages.

Battery Options - Getting Started (2024)

FAQs

What is the new battery technology to replace lithium? ›

Sodium-ion batteries simply replace lithium ions as charge carriers with sodium. This single change has a big impact on battery production as sodium is far more abundant than lithium.

Which is better, lithium or alkaline batteries? ›

Lithium, an exceptionally light metal, gives lithium batteries the highest energy density of any battery cell. Thus, they can store more energy than alkaline batteries or any single-use battery of a comparable size. And they are superb performers in extreme temperatures, both hot and cold.

How to decide what battery to use? ›

SOME FEATURES TO LOOK FOR WHEN CHOOSING A BATTERY ARE …
  1. PHYSICAL SIZE. Most batteries are grouped by physical size. ...
  2. HOLD DOWN CLAMP. ...
  3. RECESSED POSTS/TERMINALS OR STANDARD. ...
  4. POST/TERMINAL SIZE. ...
  5. POST/TERMINAL LOCATION. ...
  6. COLD CRANKING AMPS (CCA) ...
  7. AMP HOUR (AH) ...
  8. RESERVE CAPACITY (RC)

What is the basic battery technology? ›

A battery converts energy stored in the chemical bonds of a material into electrical energy via a set of oxidation/reduction (commonly abbreviated to redox) reactions. Redox reactions are chemical reactions in which an electron is either required or produced by the chemical reaction.

What is the most promising battery technology? ›

Graphene, Not Solid-State, Comes Out On Top

The analysis found that current lithium-ion batteries, NCM and LFP, are here to stay for the foreseeable future, as they are continuing to progress rapidly and are already cleared for use. But graphene, an unexpected contender, could be the next big disruptor.

What will Tesla use instead of lithium? ›

Tesla's decision to use LFP in its Semi Light means the truck will have a 300-mile range per charge, rather than the 500-mile range of the version of the Tesla Semi that uses nickel-based lithium cells.

Is there anything better than lithium for batteries? ›

Solid-state batteries are believed to last longer — with up to seven times more recharges during their lifetime, according to CAR Magazine. They're also believed to be safer, because the solid electrolyte material is fireproof, unlike lithium-ion batteries, which are known to pose a fire risk.

What type of battery does Tesla use? ›

The foundation of Tesla's electric vehicles is based on lithium-ion batteries, which serve as the core energy storage technology for most modern electric cars and other devices.

What is the best alternative to lithium-ion batteries? ›

Faradion's sodium-ion batteries are already being used by energy companies around the world to store renewable electricity. And they are just one alternative to our heavy and growing reliance on lithium, which was listed by the European Union as a "critical raw material" in 2020.

What happens if you use alkaline batteries instead of lithium? ›

It's important to note that lithium batteries and alkaline batteries have different voltage outputs and chemistries, so they are not interchangeable in most cases. It's best to use the type of battery recommended by the device manufacturer to ensure proper performance and avoid damage to the device.

What is the safest type of battery? ›

Lithium is also the safest lithium battery type on the market, safer than lithium ion and other battery types. And last but not least, LiFePO4 batteries can not only reach 3,000-5,000 cycles or more… They can reach 100% depth of discharge (DOD).

Are Rayovac batteries good? ›

Performance: Energizer is known in the industry at the longest lasting AA battery but tests have shown that Rayovac batteries perform just as long as Energizer batteries. Price: In addition, price was an important factor. Customers are constantly looking for ways to save, but not at the expense of quality.

What is the newest battery technology? ›

Latest Trends in Automotive Battery Technology
  • Lithium-ion batteries. Lithium-ion batteries are the mainstream choice for today's electric vehicles. ...
  • Solid-state batteries. Enter the solid-state batteries, often heralded as the next big thing in EV technology. ...
  • Graphene-based batteries.
Feb 14, 2024

What is the cheapest battery technology? ›

The active components of our iron-air battery system are some of the safest, cheapest, and most abundant materials on the planet — low-cost iron, water, and air.

What is the name of the new battery technology? ›

NEW GENERATION LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES

Several chemistries are gathered under the name of li-ion batteries, as the result of decades of selection and optimization close to perfection of positive and negative active materials.

What is the next battery beyond lithium? ›

4 Beyond lithium. Researchers are currently investigating alternative materials and chemistries for batteries, such as sodium- (Liu M. et al., 2022), potassium- (Yuan et al., 2021), magnesium- (Li et al., 2023b) and calcium-ion (Gummow et al., 2018) batteries, aiming to develop next-generation energy storage solutions.

What is the new battery better than lithium? ›

Sodium-ion battery charges faster than lithium-ion variants and have a three times higher lifecycle.

Will lithium battery be replaced? ›

“l*thium is already relatively scarce, and thus expensive. Mining it is environmentally and geopolitically problematic. “Creating a battery that might reduce lithium requirements by approximately 70% could have tremendous environmental, safety, and economic benefits.”

Top Articles
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Merrill Bechtelar CPA

Last Updated:

Views: 5884

Rating: 5 / 5 (70 voted)

Reviews: 85% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Merrill Bechtelar CPA

Birthday: 1996-05-19

Address: Apt. 114 873 White Lodge, Libbyfurt, CA 93006

Phone: +5983010455207

Job: Legacy Representative

Hobby: Blacksmithing, Urban exploration, Sudoku, Slacklining, Creative writing, Community, Letterboxing

Introduction: My name is Merrill Bechtelar CPA, I am a clean, agreeable, glorious, magnificent, witty, enchanting, comfortable person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.